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Kaleidoscope, the avant-garde creation can’t pass by us unnoticed. It’s not about a formal trick of stitching some pictures together, nor a cheap and cheerful toy from our childhood.

It’s more of a stimulating way of combining thinking with imagination, a pictorial and introspective interpretation of photography.

What it really is and why it exists, the two contrivers: Cyril (BE) and Dave (UK) tell us themselves.


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# 1 - How would you define kaleidoscope?

CBJJBC  
It is a different way of looking at pictures. It’s like a prism that can offer a different image. Finally kaleidoscope propose another narrative story, another reading. This also tells about my childhood.

davespertine
• a form, a structure, a style... a movement
• a systematic way of showing images collectively, a democratization of the function of images
• a creative editorial mixed media based on recycling and rotation.... using squares to make larger squares...but... it doesn't have to be about squares.. it’s about shapes

moving slowly by kscope swab by kscope floors by kscope


# 2 - How do you assemble the pictures? (is there any method to match the pictures together?)

CBJJBC  
As far as I’m concerned I assemble pictures very quickly, very spontaneously. I think Dave is more than me in thoughts. I look at his pictures and I know immediately how I'm going to associate them. It's the same thing for my kaleidoscopes shown on Deviant-Art from other artists.  
news.deviantart.com/article/67… news.deviantart.com/article/73…

davespertine
There is a basic traditional form but variations will continually evolve
I will describe the main ones so far in detail.... news.deviantart.com/article/78…

cross eyed by kscope eurolines by kscope ratio by kscope


# 3 - Who can make them? (Obviously anyone who wants to but do you encourage people to come up with their own kaleidoscopes? If yes, why? If not, why?)

CBJJBC  
Yet kscope is for Dave and me. We have worked a lot before creating this account and many things to show. But I believe that one day kscope will be opened to others. We are doing that already in our journal.  Personally what I could wish is that artists offer us their pictures. This would be to Dave and me to imagine an assembly.

davespertine
Anyone can make them... no one has been encouraged - no one encouraged us to make them... it is an act of free will on all parts.
I like the idea of making it easier for people to do what they want to do...
rather than being a society that makes it easy for some, hard for others.... anyone one can!....
There are rules, but only so we can bend and break them.

Tribut to kscope by as2pik pour Kscope by edredon X... by mheuf


# 4 – Who (and when) thought of kscope first? How came the idea of collaborating together?

CBJJBC  
I think I was the first one to propose to Dave a collaboration between his works and mine. I remember that ... I left him a comment on a journal he posted in a k. form.

davespertine
Cyril thought of the idea of kaleidoscope. You will have to ask him when he made the first one as i can't access his journal that far back. Luckily i already know you are asking him too.
I made a k in my journal,  stating "kaleidoscope is a concept by CBJJBC". Some time later cy asked if i wanted to collaborate, so we started kscope.

hello by kscope kscope by kscope on peut demander by kscope


# 5 – What is the scope of kscope? Why do you make them?

CBJJBC  
to share fun and experimentation.

davespertine
The scope is endless, only limited by ideas and the desire to make them. There are various challenges in making them. I think the greatest thing is in imagining the outcome before making it.

scope of scopes by kscope scope of scopes 2 by kscope scope expands by kscope


# 6 – What changes / developments would you like to see in the future?

CBJJBC  
I believe in my / our imagination. “L’avenir nous le dira”.

davespertine
There is a natural evolution, but yet there is also a base to return to.... you can wander away, explore, develop and the return...home
The most exciting thing will be to expand the collaboration... by involving new artists

pyramid by kscope mondrianoscope by kscope face by kscope


# 7 – It’s all sounds great! What are the unwritten rules for those who would like to join the team?

CBJJBC  
Speaking personally, I don’t wish kscope becoming a community. It is a free space of creation between Dave and me which remains open to others. I have  appreciated a lot the initiatives of some spontaneous Deviants that we show in the « Tribute » gallery kscope.deviantart.com/favourit…

Also on a personal basis, because we have not really talked about that with Dave, I sometimes want to work with images of other creators. It's a bit what we do in our journal with the "featurescope » section. kscope.deviantart.com/journal/

I would like to work with Dave’s pictures more and more but also with other creators. We can imagine then, a gallery, "guest". Just as obviously, we could consider kscope for creations to be published in a gallery "guest" or "friends."

And in conclusion, we could also imagine that some artists give us their pictures. Dave and I will work them in a kaleidoscope form with different variations.

davespertine
There are no written rules, we had thoughts about them, but they never came to anything.
I guess there are obvious rules, but as artists and rebels, we play with rules, bend and break them.
To impose set rules would be too limiting and lead towards cliché

magic by kscope direction by kscope the illusion of affluence by kscope


# 8 – How does it feel like being masters of such a brilliant invention?

CBJJBC  
We have not invented anything and we are masters of nothing. The very first kaleidoscope I posted in my journal is this one:

and into... by davespertine and into... by davespertine and into... by davespertine
and into... by davespertine ghosts and... by PukeChrist and into... by davespertine
and into... by davespertine and into... by davespertine and into... by davespertine

It was not really a kaleidoscope, but Dave was already well and truly present. That day I remember very well, DA seemed terribly boring. I wanted to show other pictures that I love and still ignored. I truly believe that if I stay  by DA, it’s to share the work of the others. I do not need DA to make my pictures real, and professionally, DA brings me nothing at all.

Finally, the idea of a kaleidoscope, as we stand, is very close to kinetic art. In this sense, we have not invented anything. We simply made for the web in general and DA in particular, an alternative approach to the image.

davespertine
It's not as if we have invented the wheel :) and if we had, what use would such a square wheel be? :D
seriously though, it is early days and although we can imagine what may come of it, the reality is always different.

We seem to live in a world where most people are too busy to take any notice or to get involved... thus things move very slowly and new challenges are not forthcoming….
so we have to create new challenges for ourselves

To conclude, and return to the question... mastery is about control
and i reject control! (if such a thing is possible) which it isn't, because without control nothing happens (unfortunately)
Where did spontaneity go? improvisation?

clone theory - dawn by kscope clone theory - dusk by kscope clone theory - dawn by kscope
clone theory - dusk by kscope frame in frame by kscope clone theory - dusk by kscope
clone theory - dawn by kscope clone theory - dusk by kscope clone theory - dawn by kscope


# 9 – what do you think, Ida? what is the scope of the scope?

ideoda
I enjoy exploring the visual harmony and the associated feelings it conveys. There's a link between pictures and words, pictures and pictures.. both tell a story and that's great! A story in nine frames.
I wish both of you the best and limitless pictures to provide loads of kaleidoscopes for us!

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mj-magic Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
wonderful!! :heart: I love these works!!
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uin Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
These guys are incredible at what they do. I love watching the concept evolve
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mheuf Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2009
:clap: very interesting :nod:
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HorstSchmier Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2009
Well deserved, one of the most artful projects on dA . :thumbsup:


Right Box?? . =D
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ideoda Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2009
Absoulutely right! :bounce:
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DA supporter !
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HorstSchmier Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2009
Well deserved, one of the most artful projects on dA . :thumbsup:
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HorstSchmier Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2009
UUUhhh, wrong Box :-(
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SLPdomain Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2009
Great title and good choose for interview.
These two are with out doubt innovative and encouraging...
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